Q:
How does it feel to be an 'overnight success' as a new mystery
writer...after publishing 70 novels in the past 25 years?
It’s
been a long road. When I first thought about being a writer, I went
immediately for the mystery field. At sixteen, I wrote my first short
story, “The Third Grave,” and almost immediately sold it to
Ellery Queen’s Mystery Magazine. That was also the last time
I sold to them! I got busy with college, with starting a teaching
career, and so on and drifted away from writing for years. And then
when I came back, I wrote fantasy and sf, and other things came
along, too. So if I’m an overnight success, I must have overslept.
Q:
You wrote a lot of fantasy and science fiction, and also before you
got back to the mystery field, you published in many other genres,
correct?
Yes.
Years after that first story, influenced by friends who were in the
sf and fantasy field, I wrote and sold short stories to sf/fantasy
magazines. That led to Richard Curtis, the agent, contacting me to
ask if I could write an sf novel.
You
never say “no.” So I said sure, I’m working on one right now.
He asked me to send it to him when I finished, and six months later I
did. He sold that one (To Stand Beneath the Sun) and that got
me started as a novelist. Since then I’ve written science fiction,
fantasy, horror, historicals, and tons of YA books.
Q:
Is there an advantage for a writer to work in so many different
fields? Is that something you might advise younger writers to try?
Actually,
it may have been my worst mistake. Richard Curtis always said that if
I do ONE damn thing I might make a name for myself, but I tended to
write the story that came to mind, so I wrote fantasy, horror, sf, a
mystery, you name it. The result was that I landed firmly in the
midlist and stuck there! And when John Bellairs died and his son
Frank asked me to finish up some books in his father’s series, that
cemented me as a YA writer for a long time.
Q:
And you also wrote for that TV dog that liked to dress up in
costumes.
Sure,
Wishbone the Jack Russell terrier. Those were fun to write, but my
gosh, they wanted a ton of them. Eventually I co-wrote a good many
Wishbone books with Thomas E. Fuller, with whom I worked on radio
scripts for the Atlanta Radio Theatre Company, and also with Barbara.
Through
it all I still loved mysteries. When I was in college I corresponded
regularly with Fred Dannay, half of the Ellery Queen writing team—a
wonderful, encouraging guy—and also with Ken Millar, who wrote as
Ross MacDonald. Our letters were often about the art and craft of
mystery writing, and without being formal teachers, they gave me a
great deal of instruction in the form.
Q:
Tell us how you came back to the mystery field after all those other
books.
Before
Jim Dallas, I launched another collaboration, this one with my
daughter Amy, a theater person—we created “Bailey Macdonald”
(see the homage?) as a pen name for YA mysteries that call in a
historical character—as a youth—to act as detective. The first of
those was Wicked Will, in which a twelve-year-old Will
Shakespeare solves a murder; the second, The Secret of the Sealed
Room (I had a better title, but the publisher didn’t like it)
does something similar with a teen-aged Ben Franklin. We have plans
for one with a young Sam Clemens, but for some reason my daughter got
married recently, so that one’s on hold! But before starting those,
Thomas Fuller and I planned and even wrote in the adult mystery
field. We had come up with the germ of Jim Dallas back around 2000.
Q:
You'd intended a series of novels inspired by Travis McGee, right?
Yes,
Tom and I had already published one mystery, a kind of romantic cozy,
called The Ghost Finds a Body, very much in the classic
amateur-sleuth mold. It was set in Florida, a place both Tom and I
liked a lot. While we were working on a completely different
project—an ARTC radio production—we were taking a break and Tom
said, “Dammit, I want to read a new Travis McGee!”
I
pointed out that, John D. MacDonald having died a few years earlier,
that was not likely to happen. But Tom asked, “What if we wrote a
tribute novel, one that isn’t a McGee but is in the same mold?” I
was willing if he was, and he came up with the germ of the idea (I
won’t spoil it), the odd fact that would make the mystery possible.
Q:
How did you two collaborate? How’d you divide the work on the Jim
Dallas book?
With
Atlanta Bones, I suggested “Dallas” as the name for the
character, since it is pretty widely known that MacDonald’s
original name for his beach-bum adventurer was Dallas McGee.
Unfortunately, his proposal landed on his editor’s desk on November
22, 1963. “Dallas” was, at that historical moment, a bad choice.
But today the curse is off it. Originally our man was just going to
be Dallas, no other name (like MacDonald’s Meyer), but that got to
be awkward, so one day Tom said, “He’s Jim,” and that was that.
Tom
and I met and plotted out the novel pretty thoroughly, about fifteen
double-spaced pages or so, and we laid out the kind of research we’d
need to do. We took a run at writing a few chapters, six as I recall,
three by me and three by Tom—we did alternate chapters. To
distinguish these from Travis, we decided they’d be third-person.
That didn’t work, and we decided that we’d need to go
first-person instead. But at that moment we sold two YA series and
got really busy working on them, so we tabled the novel. That’s
where matters rested when Tom died of a sudden heart attack in
November, 2002.
Not
at all. By this time in our careers, we were identified as a YA team,
and so we decided we’d do the Dallas novel under a pen name—not
to hide our identities, but to brand them as PG-13! Tom suggested a
“Mac” name to reference both McGee and MacDonald, and our first
thought was McKee, but that seemed too heavy-handed and obvious. Then
McKay. I came up with Ken as a tip of the hat to the OTHER MacDonald,
Ken Millar. Trouble was, we discovered a whole host of Ken McKays. So
we thought we’d spell it weird: McKea (pronounced McKay).
Q:
Were you tempted to abort the novel with Tom’s death?
Oh,
yes. Tom died intestate, so there were legal issues as well as the
shock of losing a close friend. However, the Atlanta Radio Theatre
Company began work in 2010 on recording The Dancer in the Dark,
a Lovecraftian horror tale that Tom had written as a
two-and-a-half-hour radio serial, and I was cast in it.
That
reminded me that Tom had a very rough draft of a novel version of the
story that we had planned to work on together. I dug that out,
completed it, and published it as an ebook. That in turn led me to
look at the groundwork we’d laid for Atlanta Bones, and I
still liked the idea, so I began from scratch to write the novel from
the outline plans.
Q:
Once you'd decided to go on, was there any change in your thinking
about the nature of the series? As I went on from the first book to
the second, I found myself thinking: Here's a tribute that knows
when to go its own way.
The
first idea was a one-off homage. I think we put maybe too much
backstory in Atlanta Bones because of that. But, doggone it, I
grew to like the character so much that I figured there must be more
stories to tell.
There’s
a lot of Tom and me in the characters, you know. Physically, Sam
Lyons is a lot like Tom—tall and bulky. He wears my Hawaiian
shirts, though. The byplay is a lot like discussions Tom and I would
have.
Detour
for a story: Tom and I were on the way to a meeting of our writers’
group one Sunday. It was in Atlanta, south of our homes, but since I
lived farther north than Tom, usually I’d stop by his house and
pick him up and we’d drive down together.
This
Sunday we had to pull over. Coming toward us in the other lane was a
police car with a flashing light; behind it was a hearse. Behind that
was one car. That was the entire procession. I said to Tom, “Nothing
in the world looks sadder than a clown’s funeral.”
He
didn’t react. Then, an hour later, in the middle of the meeting,
Tom suddenly roared with laughter and yelled, “Because they’re
all in the same car!” Everyone thought he’d lost his mind.
That
kind of joking around shows up in the books and it always reminds me
of talking with Tom.
Okay,
physically Jim Dallas is . . . not me. Not Tom, either. Kind of an
ideal man of action, but damaged both physically and psychically.
Anyway,
with the two strong characters as a grounding, I thought there were
many more stories to tell. Before I had finished Atlanta Bones, I
had come up with two more ideas, and with a little ingenuity I found
a title pattern. MacDonald’s McGee was color-coded: The Deep
Blue Goodbye, A Purple Place for Dying, Cinnamon Skin, and so on.
Instead of that, I decided that each book would have an alphabetical
title: Atlanta Bones, Cuban Dagger, Eden Feint, Glades Heist….so
I could do thirteen books, until I get to Washington Xray and
the Y-Z one, which I know but which I’m saving. I can see a
character arc for Jim now and I think it’s sustainable.
Q:
What does Jim Dallas bring to the table that's new and refreshing
and different?
I
see him as a man struggling with despair. He is not by nature
pessimistic. He has a great sense of humor and a real interest in
life. But life has damaged him and has made him bitter and cynical in
ways he’s aware of and doesn’t like. He’s solving his own
mystery, in a way, through the books, trying to find his way back to
a point of balance and evenness in his own life.
Jim’s
obsession—and he is compulsive—can be taken off his own problems
by the intricate details of the cases he discovers and works on, but
that’s at best temporary, leaving him antsy and disturbed between
cases. Sam Lyons senses his potential for violence and destruction,
but also senses that he is salvageable, and so he does what a friend
can to help Jim deal with the explosive matters in his own past and
his own psyche.
So
I think the new element here is actually a very old one: the
detective ultimately detecting himself. Oedipus the King is a
detective story in which the detective is simultaneously the murderer
he is pursuing, without realizing it. That can be incredibly
powerful. That’s what I’m driving at right now in the series.
Q:
Had you always planned on doing this as a limited, thirteen-part
series? An inspired idea, by the way—the doubled-up alphabetized
titles: Atlanta Bones, Cuban Dagger, Eden Feint...!
Well,
you never know! You launch out on a series, maybe people hate it, and
it dies. But I do see a clear character arc for the thirteen books.
After that…I don’t know. Maybe, depending on how Y-Z turns out,
there could be further adventures. At the moment, I’m concentrating
on lucky thirteen, though!
Q:
A fair number of writers, including myself, have switched from
traditional to ebook publishing. You're one of the handful who work
on both sides. Though you've been with the same agent for decades,
he can't handle all your work...and has turned down a few precious
projects, I think. You've written them, regardless. What have we
here? A commercial, genre writer who writes what he will, from the
heart?
The
market is dismal at the moment. Traditional publishers don’t know
how to deal with ebooks, but they need to learn, and damn fast.
Really, what’s the point of bringing out a hardcover priced at
$28.00, a paperback version priced at $7.99, and an ebook priced
at…$14.00? That deters readers.
The
midlist author is right now persona non grata as far as most
traditional houses go. They want guaranteed best-selling writers, so
we have pop stars getting six-million-dollar book deals, while
talented writers can’t break in. That’s a shame, and it’s no
wonder that writers are turning to independent publishing.
As
for me, I want to write what I’d like to read. That’s why I never
settled on a genre—an idea comes up and I want to follow it down
the rabbit hole, and whether the hole leads to sf, fantasy,
historicals, or mysteries, I want to go along on the trip.
And
like all writers, I want readers, people to go with me.
Q:
How goes life in EbookLandia? Have you succeeded in learning
everything you need to know but hoped you'd never have to ask?
Getting
there, not there yet. I’ve become pretty good at formatting for
ebooks, and I design my own covers. The costs are minimal—you
really have to have an ISBN, and they’re $125.00 each if you buy
them one at a time, and you really need to register your own
copyright, which is a further $35.00. Earning that back is a big
milestone! Fortunately, ebooks have a higher royalty rate than paper
books, and that helps get you to the break-even point (which, by the
way, I passed fairly quickly with both the Dallas novels now out).
I’m not getting rich, but I like to see the sales mount up. They
provide some validation—“Somebody actually is willing to pay to
read my story.”
I’m
already getting emails asking why the books aren’t in paper. The
answer is that no publisher apparently wants them. It’s barely
possible that will change as the series goes on, but if it does, I
intend to hang onto the ebook rights because I enjoy the process of
controlling the book so much.
Which
is not to say that I don’t need editors. Fortunately my wife
Barbara has a good eye for a syntactical faux pas or a plot
hole, and the members of my writers’ group backstop me on story
logic and character and so on. Honestly I think at this stage the
ebooks are as well-edited as most of my paper books have been.
But
I am still learning. Actually, that’s a good thing. I can honestly
say that I have learned something new with every story, every book I
have ever written, and that keeps the process lively for me.
Q:
What handicaps do you have to fight to succeed as an indie writer?
There’s
the kneejerk response, of course: “If it was any good, it would be
in hardcover.” I think that prejudice will fade over time. Right
now ebook sales are outstripping traditional book sales.
On
the other hand, there’s a lot of drek out there! It’s hard to
carve a niche in a field where the really bad stuff, the stuff that
doesn’t cut it on any level, outnumbers the good so decisively.
That’s always true, though—Sturgeon’s Law in science fiction is
“Ninety percent of everything is crap.” So you have to learn to
trust the readers to find you and to make up their minds. If they
like you, it would be nice if they’d tell five other people to buy
the book!
With
self-publishing in the traditional sense, distribution is the big
problem. With ebooks, it’s publicity, letting people know the story
is there and that it’s worth reading.
Q:
What company would you like your work to keep on discriminating
readers' shelves?
As
a mystery writer, I’d love to see my stuff up there with all my
idols: Ellery Queen, Rex Stout, Ross MacDonald, John D. MacDonald.
They are the ones I began to read before I was even a teen-ager and
the ones whose stories linger in the mind. And there are writers in
other fields who touch on mysteries now and then that I’d be
honored to keep company with: Ray Bradbury, Isaac Asimov, and my
long-time favorite writer, Robert Louis Stevenson. Among the ladies,
Connie Willis, Dorothy Sayers, and Sue Grafton—who like me was
inspired by Ken Millar to become a writer. And of course as you know
I like your character Boss MacTavin, a hardboiled guy in a whole
nother way from Dallas, but a hell of an interesting figure!
Q:
What books can we expect from you besides more Jim Dallas thrillers?
My
next paper book is a biography of Eddie Carroll, the most well-known
actor that no one’s ever heard of. He was the voice of Disney’s
Jiminy Cricket for 37 years. Wonderful guy with wonderful stories,
and his widow Carolyn and I have co-written his bio. That one’s
coming out early next year and is in the editing stage now.
One
of these days, Sam Clemens, Detective. And Tom and I had a
steampunk novel underway, The Empress of Time, that I think
has real potential. A publisher has expressed interest in my writing
another show-business biography. And—well, that’s probably enough
to be getting on with!
Q:
You've worn a lot of hats, Brad, and worn them very well: Professor
(full title—where), son, husband, father, author of
horror/sci-fi/fantasy/nonfiction/mystery...Which hats remain for you
to wear—and which do you most yearn to wear?
Professor
of English at the University of North Georgia (formerly Gainesville
State College)
I’d
like to be a grandpa one of these days! And I’ve always wanted to
be…a lumberjack!
No,
actually I love the sea and ships and boats, and though I don’t
want the aggravation and expense of actually owning one, I’d really
like to learn how to sail a sailboat one of these days.
Q:
Do you close the bathroom door when you're home alone?
I
do, because I hate peeing on my dog’s head. And it’s hard to
avoid because he wants to look in there and see what’s happening.
Q:
What's one thing about you that drives people nuts?
Barbara
says I lie a lot—not maliciously, but I’ll start telling a story
and if she doesn’t seem to be paying attention, I’ll keep
embroidering it until it breaks down of its own weight. My kids say I
shouldn’t sing in the car because my voice can cause sterility.
Q:
Do you have any strength as a writer that some consider weakness?
When Ovid's friends listed three lines of his work that they felt
were too 'clever' to keep, those were the same three lines he swore
he'd die before he changed. And Byron's friends begged him to abandon
his work on Don Juan.
Some
readers think I over-analyze now and again and explain things in too
much detail—but I’ve learned that unless I do put some effort
into it people tend to misread the story and get the wrong idea! So I
suppose it’s a case of trying to balance clarity and leaving room
for the readers’ imaginations.
Q:
Has your adult fiction benefited from your efforts in YA?
Just
the practice of storytelling helps, of course. In YA I’ve
fortunately had a great deal of freedom. When I did the Wishbone
adaptation of Treasure Island, I told the editor, Kevin Ryan,
that every young-reader adaptation I’d ever seen soft-pedaled the
story by omitting the onstage deaths of both good and bad guys, and I
told him that in my version them what died in the original would
similar die in the Wishbone version, by the Powers! And he let me do
that. After all, pirates are not nice people. The line editor said
that young readers wouldn’t understand Trelawney’s line,
“Hawkins, I put prodigious faith in you!” but he let me keep
“prodigious” in. I think kids get it—from context if from
nothing else—and so both in style and substance I treasured the
freedom I have had in writing for a younger audience. Traditional YA
mysteries don’t kill anyone—but in my YA murder mysteries,
murders are real, and kids help to solve them.
Q:
Are you the guy who sits at the end of the bar secretively taking
notes...or the wild party animal who jumps right into the action and
hopes to remember it later?
More
the quiet guy. At parties I talk with friends and strangers and don’t
drink much. One thing I have to do with the Jim Dallas tales is to
get connoisseurs to tell me what beers, wines, and liquors he would
buy. Dallas didn’t start out as a man devoted to high living, but
one way he copes is to make his existence as pleasant as possible, so
he tends to seek out good beverages and good food. He’s not saving
up for the future, so his simple life is spiced by a bit of
indulgence (which he pays for with a rigorous exercise routine).
Me,
a beer is usually all I want, just one. Not fussy about it. I
actually have more fun watching, listening, and mentally filing
things away than by trying to be a party animal. You get the seeds of
stories by people watching. The fun is seeing what they grow into.
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